This week on #NoVisuals, we are talking with Terrence, the Founder of World Dreams, a Streetwear Brand based in Providence, Rhode Island. Join us a Terrence shares his experiences as a rising entrepreneur. Entrepreneurship is shifting from the large, consumption-based model, to one that fosters and supports the local, grassroots business within our own communities. We discuss Terrenece's beginnings and how he hopes to evolve over time.
This week on #NoVisuals, we are talking with Terrence, the Founder of World Dreams, a Streetwear Brand based in Providence, Rhode Island. Join us a Terrence shares his experiences as a rising entrepreneur. Entrepreneurship is shifting from the large, consumption-based model, to one that fosters and supports the local, grassroots business within our own communities. We discuss Terrenece's beginnings and how he hopes to evolve over time.
You are now listening to the no visuals podcast and unedited take on life. What's it going on? Everyone I'm Shanique and welcome to the no visuals podcast, your weekly unedited take on life. I wanted to start this episode by thanking everyone who listened to the first one, all the comments, all the listens, all the shares, feedback, everything meant so, so much. So I appreciate that you all took the time to listen to it. And we're just going to keep this going on a weekly basis. Every Tuesday, no visuals podcasts. That's what we're doing. So, um, this week's episode, I have a special guest, my cousin, who is also known as miss the world dreams, uh, Terrence he's here. Um, I wanted to bring Tarryn's on to talk a little bit about conscious entrepreneurship. So Terrance is the founder of world dreams, a luxury street wear brand from Providence, Rhode Island. And also y'all be sure to look out for multiple drops. Terrans made sure that I said multiple, cause they're doing a lot of things this summer.
Speaker 2:Yup. Well, I'm here and I'm happy to be here. You know what I'm saying? Well, James is the closing line. That's the movement. That's the brand. We are dropping a whole bunch of stuff this summer. So before we start just everybody follow us world dreamed for one gang.
Speaker 1:And I just want to take the time to say, if you hear rain in the background, Terrence brought the rain. He has the take the city by storm Providence shirt on. So thank you Terrence for bringing the thunder and lightening.
Speaker 2:That's how it was the first time when I first dropped these shirts, it actually started raining. And I don't know, I just see it actually got my job by telling them that I wanted that. Yeah,
Speaker 1:You couldn't wear another shirt today, bro. You had to wear that. You had to wear the thunder and light.
Speaker 2:Everybody listening to the no visuals podcast. I think this thunder and lightening, my add some dramatic effects to affect to this episode is going to be a great one.
Speaker 1:All right. Light, light. Your incense. Let's get 10 cents.
Speaker 2:Just say just on all that.
Speaker 1:So getting into the conversation I wanted to bring you on because how you go about your business, how you conjure up the ideas, how you bring them to life is very conscious. It's not just putting stuff out to put things out. You're thinking about it. It's very conscious. Everything has a meaning. So I thought you would be really good to talk about conscious entrepreneurship. Thank you. So first of all, give us a little rundown on world dreams. What made you decide to start world dreams or made me decide to start world dreams?
Speaker 2:Well, the real answer is I was feeling a little bit hopeless in my college dorm one day and um, I didn't start it at this time, but, um, this is when I started to feel like I it's time to make some moves for yourself because I have a lot of friends that while I had a lot of friends that do music and I was seeing that they were doing stuff for themselves and I was kinda like, well, I'm not an art, I'm not a musical artist, but I know how to draw and I can dress. So I was like, might as well start a clothing line. And that was back in college where I was feeling a little hopeless. I didn't know what I was going to do. I didn't like my major. And I was like, I need to make some money for my family. Somebody's got to do it. And I, I just felt like taking the initiative of starting a brand, but definitely started because of an anointing. I would say from God, speak on. It definitely started from the beginning of my life and just came into fruition around 2017 is when I drew the logo. And then from there it's history, I can't say the, I can't say the M day I drew the logo is when the idea came, but it's definitely when it came to life,
Speaker 1:Was it like, Oh, actual, like I said, world dreams on the logo.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I, first thing I drew was a globe and I think it's just because I was drawing a globe, just, just because, but then I don't, I, till this day, I don't know how the name came to me. It literally just came to me. Like, I can't remember the day, the moment, but I think I said world, and then I said dreams and
Speaker 1:It just stuck. That's how it is sometimes a lot. I feel like a lot of people can relate to the fact that they're in college and they can't connect with or pick a major that really suits them. I think, I don't know. Sometimes the whole high school to college process for a lot of people feel as rushed where it's like you're 17, 18, and you have to now go to college and pick something that you're going to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the first, the first, uh, couple orientation meetings in summer where they have you pick your major. It's like, yo, I just got out of high school. I don't even know what these majors have really are.
Speaker 1:So D like so unreasonable to ask a 17, 18 year old, okay. Pick a major and that you're gonna love and want to stick with it
Speaker 2:Because I know I picked my major and they kicked my ass out. No cap. That was like, yeah, your GPA is not high enough. I've got to go. So
Speaker 1:Speaking on, you're not resonating with your major in college. You drew, I remember you always drawing all the time in the house as a kid, even before college, just like always pen and pencil or on paper or whatever. Did you feel like your gifts and your talents were never acknowledged? Or did you always like, kinda like, feel like you have support to foster your gifts?
Speaker 2:Um, always felt like I had support to foster my gifts, whether that's been through family, friends, acquaintances. Um, definitely one of the things I realized in life is I've been blessed to be around solid people. Like the whole time, like I've never really had to deal with like fake people or this or that. But in terms of like support, my parents always supported me for sure. Um, especially, especially with like artwork and stuff, because a lot of parents kind of pressure their kids to be like a doctor chemist or engineer that's that. But not once my mom told me I could draw, well, once she realized I could draw, she was like, nah, you better keep drawing. Like you could do that. And my brothers was saying it was fly too. And everybody at school was like, nah, you could. So basically everybody kept telling me I could draw. So I was like, yeah, I can draw. And then I won a contest in fourth grade and I was really happy about that. So then that was another moment of realization that I could actually
Speaker 1:Do this. Yeah. What was that? And I remember that in the diocese diet, the Catholic, whatever, that newspaper that they got. I remember that on the fridge, we were all am thank God for nature. That's what I put on it. What a beautiful picture of nature. Wow. But you were convicted from time from fourth grade
Speaker 2:[inaudible] but yeah, I definitely think my talents have been acknowledged and supported.
Speaker 1:So what would you say to someone who like doesn't have that support though? Cause a lot of people, like if someone went to their parents and said, Hey, I want to draw, I want to pursue music. A lot of people's parents would be like, no, it's either nursing engineering, whatever, become a doctor, like as like a foreign person. Like that's a lot of the times what we hear.
Speaker 2:Yup. What would I say to them? I would tell them to just do it anyway. Yeah. So anybody listening to this? Just do it anyway, honestly, because, um, that's when you, when it's your creativity, it's your money. No, no matter what your parents think, no matter what anybody thinks, like when you are being creative, you're generating the stream of revenue for yourself and you can set your own prices. You can set your own time. You can do whatever you want with your own creativity. So you can also do what they want you to do on the side. But for me, I wanted to do that too. Not that I was pressured into it, but I wanted to do it too. And that didn't go good for me. So keep doing the art stuff, keep, keep doing anything that has to do with being creative, because that is your money period. It comes straight from your head and then it's up to you if you want to stop. Honestly,
Speaker 1:I would also say too to that, like from my perspective, sometimes when you pursue a path that your soul doesn't feel right with it, like everything that you do is like difficult. Like you're always like treading against water. Whereas like if you went along with what your natural gifts are, things just come to you a lot easier.
Speaker 2:A good, a good example of what you just said though. It's kind of the opposite at first when you're, I'm trying to be creative because everybody's trying to like push back, like, nah, that's not what you should be doing. That's not where you're going to get the money. And it feels like you're treading water trying to get your creativity out. But once you just, you have to commit to yourself first, especially for all the younger kids that are going to listen to this, commit to yourself first and then just like really tell yourself, like I'm going to do it no matter what people say, just be like, I'm going to do it. And then it's going to get easier.
Speaker 1:Yeah. In terms of that, are there times where you ever like felt crippled or like held captive by your comfort zone? Because it's comfortable to just do like follow the straight and narrow path that you go to high school, you go to college, you get a job, you do X, Y, and Z. And that's like the comfort zone, but you kind of like broke away from that.
Speaker 2:I was too comfortable in my comfort zone, honestly. Cause I was like a C student, my whole life, literally C for comfort. Like I was literally in my comfort zone. Not because I was out, I'm a smart kid, but I didn't really like it
Speaker 1:Apply yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I was literally just getting by, but when I started, um, the clothing line, I've been challenging myself, way more. Like it's literally like been a three 60 of like challenging my mind to do new things. And back in school, I really was just getting, I got my degree, but honestly I probably got the easiest degree out of anybody. Cause I was really just, I was just taking it easy. But um,
Speaker 1:You have to give yourself credit though. Don't do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. True. Definitely. Give myself credit.
Speaker 1:Anything that you accomplish, you always give yourself credit.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I do got my bachelor's in, um, business and textile merchandise and design. So that was actually the reason that was out of my comfort zone is because I was surrounded by a lot of white women. I love all people, but um, it was kind of, I was the only black man in there and I kind of felt like I stare at me every single day, every single class, when I walked in the room, they were, I could just feel it and that was uncomfortable. But I knew I was where I was supposed to be at the same time.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I can kind of relate to that. Like in my degree program I did accounting and it was more diverse, but like some of the classes were just males. Cause like the stereotype is like, Oh, fashion women are associated with fashion. Accounting, men are associated with, so it's like in that space, like when you're in a group project or something like that, like you're like people are like taking what you're seeing like as serious, but I'm like, no, I deserve to be here. I know what I'm talking about. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Sometimes you don't want to raise your hand. But one thing I did looking back, I'm proud. I stuck with it because I know I felt uncomfortable every day, but I'm proud. Like I was able to stick with that. I was able to start raising my hand more and start answering more questions to actually get the knowledge that I was seeking out of it. Instead of just being the shy kid in the classroom.
Speaker 1:That's an important piece too, because sometimes our pads, you don't really know what your path is going to be, but when you're in a situation like that, it's like a mirror of what you need to learn in that moment. That's important. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Definitely got out of my comfort zone for that one. Okay.
Speaker 1:In terms of incorporating world dreams, like that's such a big, the name, the name is just like world dreams. Where did that come from? And you always iterate everything back to God. God is like your creative source. So, you know, state of conscious entrepreneurship, how do you always stay connected to that source and just put that in your work?
Speaker 2:So the answer is kind of in the question. So I stay connected to the source because the source is the only reason it exists. So literally I feel like if I were to deviate from staying connected to God, which is the source, if I was to deviate away from that, I'd probably just change the brain, the brand name, but I'm world dreams. To me, it's like what, what, what I really wanted to start is the initiative to help everybody that has dreams. Cause we all have dreams. Everybody in the world has dreams, but we don't really all help each other accomplish our dreams. We kind of all try to get it on our own and then meet at the top, I guess. But my thing is I kind of, I just want us all to come up together and this is where the first generation in Providence. So what we're doing is history and I know it's going to happen.
Speaker 1:I think he means like first generation,
Speaker 2:First generation, all of the, yeah, all of the immigrant kids, me and Shanique, all of our family's from Jamaica. So me and her and all of my cousins were all the first generation in Providence. So that's what I mean when I say first-generation, but yeah, we're, we're making history. And what we're going to do is we're going to build a community and it's the world dreams community, where everybody in that community is able to have access to accomplish their dreams.
Speaker 1:I love that. Do you feel like you're following your purpose?
Speaker 2:Yes, but it does get scary sometimes because I feel like my purpose is much bigger than a clothing line. I feel like my purpose is to get as much people to heaven as I can, as it says in the Bible, I'm also getting myself to heaven. I'm not trying to sound cocky on this, but I think I've done pretty well in that department of getting myself there. But the hard part is getting everybody else to happen. And I'm glad it started with a clothing line because that's what I actually like. That's what my human body likes to do. Like that's the kind of stuff that I like to indulge in. But truthfully, this is the easy part. This is the part that's probably gonna, it's gonna last the longest, but in the long run, it's gonna have the least impact. I would say, because what I want to do is I want to start housing. I want to start grocery stores. I want to start daycare. I want to start schools. And so in the future world dream, just kind of, kind of just going to be the merchandise for all of those other avenues of business. But yeah, it's all about building a community and world dreams. Is the community
Speaker 1:Going back to the first episode where we like talked about like reform or revolution with gene, we were talking about like, we need to build up our communities. Like the school systems, like in Providence, at least like public schooling is so bad. There is like food deserts. We have like people trying to gentrify like the South side. Now you see them building up the new highway. Like anytime there's a new highway construction on, that's like signaling that there's going to be gentrification.
Speaker 2:Yeah. What they're trying to do to Providence is make it a more metropolitan.
Speaker 1:Yeah. A lot in New York investors coming in. So I love the idea that you're trying to keep everything local and grassroots and I hope that catches on.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So it's see. The thing about it is the people that are trying to make it a more much trying to gentrify the city. I should say those people don't know about us yet. They don't know about world dreams yet. So we're going to sneak up on them and we're going to become the biggest company in the world. And then we're just going to have a whole bunch of influence. And then we're just going to take over. We're going to be, we're going to be black leaders. That's what, that's how I should put it. And they're not going to be ready for us.
Speaker 1:That's really important because sometimes it's like scary. Like people are like, what can we do? It starts in our own communities because when we like start with going back, generations of people who are being born in our family, now the little cousins that we have, they should grow up in a community. That's thriving.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Not the one we grew up in[inaudible]
Speaker 1:Do you feel like people are waking up now, like becoming more conscious, so it's easier to connect with people or is it, do you still find like a little difficulty in that?
Speaker 2:See, I would say no people aren't waking up more. Um, I would say, um, social media activism is like, uh, it's like a gray mirror. Like you can see in the mirror, but you can't see the other side. I just feel like we've been posting a lot, but um, we need to be doing way more than posting. What I feel like is I think on the flip side, these people in these positions of power, they want us to keep posting. They want us to keep only keep posting because, um, it gives us, it gives us a lot of power to, to share the awareness, but we need to, we need to
Speaker 1:Mo mobilize.
Speaker 2:Exactly. We need to get past posting.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I feel you too. Like right now you see like a lot of like arrest the cops that killed Brianna Taylor. And I kind of hate the fact that it became a game. Like everything like, Oh, you have like different drinks. And then underneath each one says the rest of the cops that killed Briana Taylor. It became like to me a meme. And it's sad because a lot of times that's what you see, black women are forgotten or, you know, we go hard for the men out in the streets, but then our women are forgotten and then we turn them into a meme. Yeah. That's heartbreaking to me.
Speaker 2:I, and I get, I get, I get the people that are reposting it, but I truly think the people that are making those memes are truthfully doing it for attention. Like they just want the attention towards their page. That's why I can't say everybody has woken up yet, but I'm not scared of what the future has to hold for us. Cause I think we are in, we are in the first, what, 50 years? 50 to 60 years of American black history where we have rights.
Speaker 1:Yeah. True. It's very new. So back to a little bit of entrepreneurship, I know we kind of got off track there, but um, what aspects of entrepreneurship do you feel like you have out?
Speaker 2:I love these questions and everybody listening when she asks these questions, I'm thinking about the answer. Um, I would say in terms of clothing, I've outgrown just printing a graphic design on a shirt and putting that out. Yeah. Um, that's too easy. That's, that's that's way too easy in terms of, um, building my closing line up. What I'm really trying to do is go from the smallest particle, the smallest, um, cell and build it up from there in terms of, from seed to sow, you know what I'm saying? I don't have access to all of those resources, but my big plan for the winter is I'm going to get more into fabrics and stuff like that. So I've definitely outgrown just putting the like, drawing, like how I started basically just drawing it, getting into graphic design and putting it on a shirt. I'm I'm not that I'm not into that. I'm not that into that anymore. So the world dream designs for the winter will definitely be looking different from the summer and back to expectations and stuff. Please don't don't have any expectations for me because I truly don't know what I'm going to do next. They kind of just, when I think of it, it happened a lot of the designs do come from God. So it's all on his timing. So yeah,
Speaker 1:That's kind of what happens though. Like, so when you started using the tee shirts are the most accessible and then you have to figure out, okay, how do I start making them more like complex pieces? Because unless you like are super rich or you went to like, whatever, like you just know how to, so it's kind of hard figuring that out.
Speaker 2:It's hard to start there. Like you literally have to start with a tee shirt, but there's nothing wrong with that. And I entered that question a little differently than I guess others would cause you asked entrepreneurship. And I specifically focused on the clothing part because, um, like I said earlier, the clothing line is kind of the easy part, the small part. So I need to get away from the just regular graphic design graphic tee stuff for me to get to that next level of entrepreneurship that I was talking about. Restaurants, grocery stores, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:This builds a foundation. Like you said though, because you have to lay bricks and then as you go, I think sometimes like with the social media, like generation, everything is so instant. Everything looks so easy because you see like the finished product where it's like, I saw a post and it was like, Mark Cuban worked. Like, he was like worked at a movie theater. I don't, I'm not quoting this right now. This is just like off recollection. But like when he became older, that's when he had the Mavericks or whatever. So it's like, you start somewhere like you don't come out of the gate, like ready to go, like ready to take on. I don't know. Versace.
Speaker 2:The beautiful thing I love about closing is, um, well I'll tell every anybody I started like this, anybody that has a business, don't use your business money for your personal use.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Don't do that. We're going to have an episode like talking about finances. Yeah. Cause that's, I think that's super important.
Speaker 2:Don't use it for personal use. So I say that to say, um, the good thing about clothing, it's like, you can get it off easily and the money exponentially grows. And that's why I'm, again, going back to that question of how I'm going to get into different levels of entrepreneurship. Starting this winter, the fabrics are going to get a little more intricate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no. What I'm saying and how do you hope to grow and evolve? Not just in the business, but personally, because you're a, what? 24, 24 years old. Like you, like, you're say you're going to live a hundred years. You only 24% of the way there. So you got a lot to go,
Speaker 2:Oh my God. To evolve. I guess I need to start reading and stuff more. I haven't gotten to all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:You don't like do like audio books. I, the audio book,
Speaker 2:A lot of the stuff. I, a lot of the stuff I say in a lot of this stuff I know is kind of really just not basic knowledge, but knowledge I've kind of just got from being around different areas and knowledge I've got from God himself. Um, I, I definitely need to get into more like studying. Cause I, I wasn't, I wasn't that good in school, so I never really got to it when I got out of school. But that's a definitely a way I need to evolve because I really don't do anything like that at all.
Speaker 1:No. Why don't you think you do? It's just like time.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I don't have the attention span for it. I truthfully think I have add and I don't have the attention span for it and maybe it I'm going to blame it on the school conditioning thing where I was forced to do all that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sound. Yeah. And that was like post traumatic,
Speaker 2:Literally opening one of them, paper books, just feeling the paper. It's like PTSD, right? Like no cab. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So anything else you want to say, Terrence?
Speaker 2:Um, I want to tell everybody I love all y'all everybody that listens to genetics podcast. No visuals is next up. I love the name. Definitely helps work on the, um, artwork and shout out to Beecher's too. Cause she definitely, she definitely whipped up some fire, but yeah. We're
Speaker 1:Um, interrupt him and say Terrence was my creative director on that. Cause Eric, every time I'm like, alright Terrance, what should I do now? He has the eye yall. One key is go to people who have the eye. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, one thing I want to say speaking towards that is I'm just like Shanique has her own business. Now I have my own business. Now, if you're listening and you're not even if you're around our age, but specifically for people our age and younger start your own business, start your own business. It doesn't matter if you're planning to get rich. It doesn't matter if you plan to just have it as a side business, but having your own stream of income that is not directed from a job. It's a great thing to do. It feels good. It feels good to wake up every day and know that in like the businesses, the first thing on your mind, it feels good.
Speaker 1:And then also like going back to that piece, like we want to like build our community up and out. So like therefore, like when you joined forces with your cousin here, close, whatever, make sure that you're like on the same page as everyone. And you can do whatever you want because now you can, you're on the same page, you have the same goal in mind trying to build up your community and you can pull to gather resources and do things that no one can do anything alone.
Speaker 2:And one thing I want to say towards our black people is we need to kinda avoid competition. We can have friendly competition, even with people we don't know. But the competition thing, when, when we're all startup businesses, it just not healthy for growth of all of us. I'm not a competitive person. Some people are I am. And that's the problem with me. Like I, cause I've played sports my whole life. Like, you know, and like now I don't, but now I just see everything else has a competition that literally want to get,
Speaker 1:Well, my life like that, my temperament is just chill. My temperament is like, there's abundance in this universe for everybody. And what is for me is for me, I don't have to compete with it.
Speaker 2:My temperament is if somebody wants to get in a competition, like I'm so down. Cause I miss, I really miss sports. So I'd really be ready to like compete and show like what I could do. Even if I lose. I, I really just like, just like, I don't know, but there's no competition in the efforts of building. I know that. And that's where it drops. Exactly. That's where, that's where the competition becomes unhealthy. If you, if you're trying to put somebody else down,
Speaker 1:I think competition is healthy. Like in your friend group. Cause like people push you to be better. And like before I said, people are your mirror. I love someone who can reflect back to me what I need to work on.
Speaker 2:[inaudible] I loved that too. Definitely loved that definitely helps to be surrounded by people that are not just going to say yes to everything you do, especially when you're trying to be creative. I mean, creativity does come from yourself and you really shouldn't have any limits on that. No expectations on that. But sometimes everything needs some editing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And you always have like a second pair of eyes.
Speaker 2:One thing I definitely want to speak on before, um, we're done. It is back to expectations because I can definitely tell that there's people that expect something from world dreams that based off the prior drops, they expect us to come out with this, come out with that guys. I don't know what's gonna come out in the next, you know what I'm saying? Like your audience would just have to evolve. Exactly. It's going to be like the musical artists. I'm sorry. Like some people might not like the new Kendrick album, the new Kanye album. Cause they evolved as an artist. But that's what we're doing here with world dreamed. And this is really about God, this has been not about us. So yeah.
Speaker 1:Well thank you Terrance. Everyone followed Terrance world dreams. Four Oh one on one on what? Four, zero, one
Speaker 2:Liberal dreams for one on Instagram and Twitter and then basic world dreams on Facebook. Just world dreams on Facebook and then the website, please go to the website. Cause that's where all the money is made. Four Oh one world dreams.com.
Speaker 1:Everyone. Yeah. You heard it here first. Thank you Terrance. I appreciate you being here. Everyone support, support, support. They're dropping a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2:A lot of stuff. This is starting in July. I'll tell you all that. We're dropping a lot of stuff to summer
Speaker 1:Today. I will all last thing. I'll end with this today. I walked in your house. Did he tell you his dad had on a shirt? That's not out yet. And I have on my college t-shirt and he's like SHINee, where's your world dreams. I'm like uncle daddy. And he came at my whole neck. I was like, well that's the good aspect, good energy. He's like, well I guess I'm special. I'm like, yeah. He went back to that question where you asked, um, are you acknowledged? And I'm supported. Yeah. Not everyone supports you. The family is very happy for you. Keep doing your thing. Yes ma'am everyone. Let's give Terrance our appreciation. Let's lift him up in this spirit. Let's give him the energy that he needs to keep going. We appreciate you. We love you. You got this.
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